Led Zeppelin

Re: The worst singer and the most overrated band in the history of rock

Peter H — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:47:38 GMT

3 years later and people are still riled up about my original post. I love the statement, "There has never been three musians that ever assembled at one time that had more talent and ability than Jones, Bonham, and Page..." Ever? John, Paul, George? Eric, Jack, Ginger? Ever? No jazz trio? No dudes who rocked with Mozart? Louis Armstrong, Johnny Dodds and Kid Ory blew more minds and radically changed music in ways that are still being felt than LZ ever dreamed of. All Led Zeppelin did was recycle blues riffs and introduce us to Hobbits. They got a lot of girls (some by force) and they wore the tightest pants and judging by your lack of inclusion of Robert Plant employed the worst rock "singer" in the history of whatever. They were great musians but so-so musicians.

Re: The worst singer and the most overrated band in the history of rock

billyq — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:02:19 GMT

Like any other art form, beauty is in the eye - or in this case, the ear - or the beholder.

As we all know Zeppelin went from being an acid blues band of exceptional interpretive abilities and virtuosity to one capable of great writing and musical innovation. During that journey many "fans" were left longing for more of the same thing that had been done on an earlier album and were not pleased with a new direction by their beloved Led Zeppelin, but as mentioned by sqeegn4t3, even the Beatles and The Who made albums that left their public feeling less than satisfied.

The body of work by Led Zeppelin should, I believe be judged not as the sum of it's parts, but by each album itself. My personal favorite is Led Zeppelin III because it is such a diverse album and displays all of the artists' range.

That said, remember there can be only one "Mona Lisa", one "The Thinker", one "Tosca." All other of those artist's works simply serve to further elevate their greatest masterpiece.

Re: The worst singer and the most overrated band in the history of rock

anonymousebelljjgwfj — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:33:20 GMT

I am a big Zep fan, love to listen to them, but I have to say that their lyrics are pretentious, childish, simply bad writing. Even the "great" stairway to heaven, which I love, is lyrically awful. Just a bunch of meaningless crap trying to sound deep.

Re: The worst singer and the most overrated band in the history of rock

anonymouslvyejejbawq — Mon, 11 May 2009 23:35:19 GMT

Your' an idiot! Of course they don't sound like they are in the studio when they are playing LIVE!Why go see them, just go buy the album if that is what you want to hear. They were raw and in your' face , improvised, jammed and that's what made people want to see them. And did they ever. Page was a genious engineer in the studio and was also used recording techniques that were new to achieve the all too well known LZ sound. There has never been three musians that ever assembled at one time that had more talent and ability than Jones,Bonham,and Page; then throw in Plants' stage prescence and natural bluesy voice and there you have it, the worlds' greatest rock band that existed and ever will, period! No band ever had such a positive effect on rock as Zeppelin.They came, they conquered and there will only be imitators or admirers, but not original or creative. Thats' just my opinion as shared by every rock publication/ guitar mag or any other musical forum. So, with that said; all you Zeppelin critics need to go find a more suitable category of music to listen to that is more to your' taste such as Culture Club,Village People or maybe Flock of Seagulls! In the near future, stop looking like an ass and just keep your' dumb-ass misguided opinion to yourself. I'm sad to say but it is scary to know there are people out there who are as ignorant as you .Well, i'm exhausted. I have probably lost 75 to 100 i.q. points just responding to this BS.

Re: The worst singer and the most overrated band in the history of rock

anonymouslvyejejbawq — Fri, 08 May 2009 23:10:06 GMT

You are truely the little *** I believe we all thought you were. You remind me of that feckless little *** in high school who would go tell on someone for burning a " mariuaghna cigarrette" before school. I'm sorry you were probably picked on and teased, because you have displayed your' ignorance and insecurity issues to the point of mental challenges caused by what I am sure( based on your' fear of threats taken literally) is probably "mommy issues". You were probably *** fed until you were 12. Go find another topic to expound on, because your' opinion is oozing with total ignorance and lack of any substance other than your' *** since of what a great band whos' creativity was legendary not to mention GOD given talent displayed by each member. So, go back to mommy or wine to the moderator like the little *** you have shown yourself to be. Try to stay away from old rock because your' ignorance scares me. Go back and get your' GED and leave your' moms *** alone. Grow up! You poor pitiful dipsh*t!

Re: The worst singer and the most overrated band in the history of rock

anonymouslvyejejbawq — Fri, 08 May 2009 22:35:01 GMT

Yes, I agree , this must be the biggest non-educated dumbass young punk that just doesn't know any better. You have displayed your' ignorance to the point of embarrassment. You are obviously a boy George/ George Micheals fan who knows nothing about rock music or creativity. Please , keep these insanely ignorant thoughts to your' journal, which I am sure you probably write all of your' inner most feminie thoughts. It's O.k. , just find another site such as one that features the backstreet boys or flock of seagulls. This is probably more your' speed. As it is painfully obvious that you spe

ak with no knowledge of the subject. Do us all a favor and come out of the closet and go have fun staying at the "YMCA"!

Re: The worst singer and the most overrated band in the history of rock

foucault — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:21:12 GMT

Any self-respecting Led Zeppelin fan knows a lot about them with all their connections with the blues and Jimmy Page's time with Yardbirds. And there really is need for a PhD thesis on it. Zep's music is influenced by more than just the blues. Try listening to Zep 3. Ok, Since I've been Loving You, but the rest of the album is very ecelectic. Same for Zep 4, Houses of the Holy, Graffiti and Presence, the last track of which is, yes, another blues but sounds like a self-composed piece (quite brilliant too). So, I say listen to Son House thru' to Zeppelin and you'll hear all the influences just run through all blues artists.

Avoid 'worst' or 'best': concerning taste there is no disputation (de gustibus non disputandum est)

Houseband — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:22:23 GMT

Pejorative judgements "worst"...or "best" should be limited to quantitative matters---in matters of taste and art, for example the recorded live music of Led Zeppelin. Not worst, not best, but obviously a major contender. Unique. And most drummers cite Bonzo as the finest 'rock' drummer. Even jazz legend Tony Williams felt that way. John Bonham was the drummer's drummer. And still is if you are interested in learning to play rock n'roll drumming. If you like broccoli, then great; but if you love cauliflower, then that does not make broccoli 'worst'.

Many drummers today are obsessed with double pedal bass drumming. Frankly I prefer Bonzo's right foot! :) But most of all the way he 'composed' his drum parts. He laid the foundational rhythmic structure over which Jimmy Page could 'weave' melodic and harmonic lines and modes. That is why you cannot have a Zeppelin after Bonham died with the exception of Jason Bonham, who was trained by Bonzo (witness the cinematic scenes in The Song Remains The Same). For Beatle fans it was with regret to watch the fab four being seconded when LZ took 'top of the pops' or whatever accolade. Even so, if a finer musical background for the Lord of the Rings were ever written, I cannot imagine what it would be. "No Quarter"...The eponymous: "California sunlight, sweet Calcutta rain, Honolulu starbright---the song remains the same..." Here you have top notch verse, as good as McCartney. Next you have a lightning rhythm guitar style, punctuated with a syncopated bass line and absolutely rocking drumwork! If you really look at what Bonham is playing and appreciate the drumming artistry embedded there, then you will have little time to criticize music in men devoted to their passion. To find a more dedicated guitarist, vocalist, bassist, drummer doesn't even make sense... Each band has their own piece of the spark.

The most influential and delicious voice and even better musical talent: Led Zeppelin

squeegn4t3 — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:17:48 GMT

That's pathetic, for one why would you rather no one listen to your music than have people thinking it's so good they want to copy it? That' the point of music for the most part is it not?
also, dont go bitching about Led Zeppelin's fucked up antics, name me an awesome bands from the 70's that DIDN'T *** *** up and do insane drug-addled questionable things.

Re: The worst singer and the most overrated band in the history of rock

squeegn4t3 — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:10:31 GMT

incorrect, the Beatles had a few shitty albums, and so definitely did the Who
not that i don't love both of those bands
Zeppelin had constant perfection pumping out of every song on every album
and unmatched vocals, guitar, bass, and drums

Re: The worst singer and the most overrated band in the history of rock

monkeeBoy — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:04:45 GMT

Led Zep and many of their contemporaries can be properly accused of overwrought blues jamming. Fact is that they and many bands of their ilk have dated pretty badly. The hip hop crowd that have sampled their best beats and riffs actually make Zep sound a more exciting proposition than they were/are. And as for the Hobbitey folk songs...

However, saw Plant and Alison Krauss a while back and he didn't seem to have any tuning problems then. Only problem he had was that she blew him off the stage, though he seemed to realise this and take it with good humour.

Re: The worst singer and the most overrated band in the history of rock

rustykins — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:04:57 GMT

I just dont understand you people. You all must be from Mars or Jupiter. I am so thankfull I was born to the RIGHT generation!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: The worst singer and the most overrated band in the history of rock

red barchetta — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:17:42 GMT

I have heard both good and bad live Zeppelin. Plant never seemed to be able to sing The Song Remains The Same without his voice cracking. Page's solos often did sound like wanking (Trampled Under Foot) but it's also true that they never played the same thing twice and they could both sound excellent at the same show (Dazed and Confused, Since I've been Loving You, No Quarter). And it's also true that I was not a fan until I saw them in 77'. And they instantly became one of my favorite bands. Ok, so they "borrowed" a lot of lyrics from others without credit; they also gave credit. I think that musically one would be hard pressed to identify any of those songs without the vocal line as having come from somewhere else. Here's the deal: if it was "the critics" who were so enamoured with the band you might be able to say that they are overrated but "the critics" didn't like them any more than you do. Thier popularity came from the record and ticket buying rock fan. The word overrated simply cannot apply to this band without you saying that another persons opinion is crap. And then, of course, you leave yourself open to the same charge.

Re: The worst singer and the most overrated band in the history of rock

paintballer1090 — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:46:02 GMT

you are crazy i am 11 and i think zepplin is best tied with the black crowes

Re: The worst singer and the most overrated band in the history of rock

Chris89 — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:42:05 GMT

Oh yeah and Rock Historian?

You made the worst argument for Led Zeppelin ever! And I mean ever!

Other bands have made good albums one after another. Bands like I don't know, THE BEATLES? Ring any bells? Or Jimi Hendrix? The who? Cream?

I'm sorry but that was a terrible argument