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Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's? YES !!

ajax25 — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:33:10 GMT

Is there any way to tell which downloads are flac? I don't see a way to find

just those without searching all of them.

Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's?

MJG196 — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:44:02 GMT

mojorisen:
I guess if anyone really wanted the shows they could just hook up an external recorder to the audio output of their computer and burn the shows for free...

Nah, doesn't work like that. MP3 is MP3. I would also pay extra $ for FLAC.

Along these lines, are all the shows 256 kbps, or does it differ between shows?

Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's? YES !!

msujibboo — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:58:03 GMT

Congrats and kudos to The Vault for finally getting it right with offering lossless compression formats (FLAC). Hopefully, many shows will be offered.

Does anybody know, are these 24 bit? Or 16? And are they seamless and cut on sector boundaries?

Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's? YES !!

TomP — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:18:47 GMT

Looks like they've finally done it. I notice a Quicksilver Messenger Service show available in FLAC. Also one by Return to Forever, but there's some hum on that one. Still way to go ! I hope they offer some Mahavishnu, my personal favorite.

KEEP 'EM COMING !!
TomP.

Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's?

Snakeport — Sun, 24 May 2009 20:20:58 GMT

If we are going to pay for a show of course it as to be in a lossless format!!!!!

Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's?

msujibboo — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:18:10 GMT

No surprise, The Vault, like so many music sites, disregards their potentially best customers. MP3 is obsolete; has been for a LONG TIME.

As always, it's the jam-band community that has a clue, not the old tired "rock establishment." Bands selling shows in FLAC or Shorten: Phish, Widespread Panic, Gov't Mule, Sound Tribe Sector 9, Umphreys McGee, The Disco Biscuits... Just to name a few.

I've purchased a couple shows here (The Outlaws and UFO). After spending a couple hours fixing them in Adobe Audition (CoolEdit), they are ok, but too much work.

I will, again, offer my servicecs in encoding wav sets to FLAC, with no sector boundary errors. Or I'll teach somebody at The Vault how to do it. Let's go! We want lossless!

And forget recording the stream with Audacity or Total Recorder: major compression, sounds worse than a 3rd generation cassette tape that's been frying on the dashboard for a couple months.

Ditto

fortuenti — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:40:35 GMT

Ditto for only buying lossless

Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's?

inmytaxi — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:06:36 GMT

The Vault makes far more money selling tshirts and posters than they ever could selling lossless songs, which would only piss off the owners of the music more.

They're being smart.

Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's?

yohan — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:31:08 GMT

mojorisen:
I guess if anyone really wanted the shows they could just hook up an external recorder to the audio output of their computer and burn the shows for free.....
I bet there will be an official response now!

not sure. shows are actually an mp3 stream at just 96Kbps.

Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's?

thehammer — Mon, 19 May 2008 08:51:42 GMT

I agree with most of the comments previously stated on this subject.

I love the Vault, the shows, and all the work the Vaulterians have put into it, but I will not spend my dollars here until these historic recordings are offered for sale in a lossless format such as Flac or Ape.

If your aim is to make this a successful enterprise, give the folks what we're asking for and you will be rewarded!

Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's?

moo — Thu, 15 May 2008 19:02:30 GMT

Come on WGV, HOW ABOUT THE COURTESY OF A REPLY?

Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's?

gfs — Sat, 10 May 2008 03:59:46 GMT

I second all the above---no $ for mucked up sound. I guess they don't want anything that could be at some later time converted to a new format--sort of planned obsolence. Read the following to see exactly what your ears have been telling you. Notice the way MP3 messes up the mid range, not just the highs. If they cared about sound quality but for some reason feel the need to have a lossy format, ogg is clearly the way to go.

http://cf2mweb.phpnet.org/comparatif_audio/

Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's?

swedesound — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:35:48 GMT

Ditto. Huge, huge ditto. Won't even bother with MP3s anymore. They just don't translate.

Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's?

MauryClahms — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:43:42 GMT

Couldn't agree more. I'd love to download about 30 of these shows but won't do it until a lossless format is available (if ever). Granted the 30 I buy will be a drop in the bucket but I'm sure there's an army of people out there who aren't making purchases because of the "mp3 only" restriction. An official response to the lossless issue would also be welcome as well.

Re: Lossless downloads (FLAC) rather than lossy MP3's?

mojorisen — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:52:13 GMT

I guess if anyone really wanted the shows they could just hook up an external recorder to the audio output of their computer and burn the shows for free.....

I bet there will be an official response now!